This interview features Dr. Bernard Brom, an integrative medicine practitioner from South Africa. Dr. Brom discusses his journey from conventional medicine to holistic healing, his views on health and illness, and his experiences with low-level laser therapy. He emphasizes the importance of a holistic approach to health, the role of diet and lifestyle, and the concept of the body’s inherent healing intelligence.
Q: Bernard, there are so many things that your introduction actually cannot even cover that I could read about you. But one thing that caught my attention specifically is the name of your book, Healthy Medicine. And I was wondering, could actually medicine be unhealthy? Isn’t that a contradictory kind of expression, healthy medicine?
A: Yeah, no, that’s interesting. Interesting question. You know, have you ever heard of the word iatrogenic disease?
Q: I might, but I’m not really sure what I should…
A: Iatrogenic disease is the fourth most common cause of ill health and death. And some people have pushed it up to the third most common cause, and I’ve seen a paper on that it’s the most common cause of ill health and death. Iatrogenic disease is illnesses caused by medical doctors in the medical profession. And it’s not… It’s by practicing medicine in the conventional way that’s dangerous. Dangerous enough to be recognized as the fourth most common cause of ill health and death.
That means that… What’s it due to? Drugs, due to surgery, due to investigation, and management in hospitals, you know. So it’s a very, very common cause. I mean, the most common cause is heart disease, and then we have cancer. And the fourth most common cause is doctor-induced diseases.
Q: Well, I would like really to delve deeper into understanding the difference between healthy and unhealthy medicine. Before we go there, I think partially you described now what actually led you to feeling dissatisfied with the way medicine worked back then when you studied medicine and then you ran away from medicine for six years. But can you explain a little bit more, actually? What were your feelings and perceptions then? What were the things that you noticed at that time? What you saw that pulled you off, repulsed you from medicine?
A: Nothing major. All I can tell you is I was unhappy. But the story actually started long before then, because when I was about, I guess I must have been about 12, my parents bought me a microscope. And when I looked down that microscope for the first time as a little boy of 12 years old, I was totally astonished. Suddenly, I saw a world that with my ordinary eyes I couldn’t see. I looked at a fly, and the fly’s wings were so astonishingly beautiful. The eyes of the fly was looking at me. And I thought, gee, there’s so much I don’t even see, I can’t even see. And I got so excited, I started to look at everything around me.
And that started me on a journey because I knew then that the world I was seeing was only partial, limited me, that my ears limited me. All my senses didn’t give me a real perception of the world, that the world was much more interesting than I thought.
[The transcript continues, but due to space limitations, we’ll end here.]